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Jan 04, 2010
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by: Anonymous


So th answer for me is to fast.
But how, if I have already achieved weight loss, can I possibly get motivvated to do it???
When you mentioned needing weight loss as a motivator I felt we really had something in common.
i can't often get to be friends with fasters who are heavier because they feel they do not share my experience if I am thin.
But this is not true. We have exactly the same problem, I feel, since though I am thin I am totally a compulsive overeater and food addict - helplessly so.
I try to cultivate spiritual reasons for fasting.
But it is so hard to elevate oneself spiritually; one needs support.
I would really like to raise myself up spiritually and develop so that I pursued fasting for more spiritual reasons, mainly cause I'd fast more successfully that way, and I'd get the health benefits I seek. And because I'd like to be a nicer and more generous and honest and assertive and vibrant person...I love myself as I am but I know I can improve too.
I have just thought these insights might be of use to you.
Please feel free to write me, laurakeefe@hotmail.com
My best,
L.
Jan 04, 2010
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Now my main problem is, yes, I am afraid, still, though less and less; but I just can't quite get positive and willing enough to stop getting high on my drug of choice -- food. It takes real love and support to peel oneself away from a bad habit, even , sadly, as with me, when the habit is killing one... it is tough to explain why I need to fast tho I am not overweight... how I could be "food-addicted" yet thin... all I know is: food is my drug... and after I fast I do not relate to food that way... am healthy. This has always been true when I have fasted, the several times in my life that I have fasted. i have never even been particularly heavy... never at all... just always miserable and constantly white-knuckling against the relentless urge to binge. ... Horrible people have said things like "your body neeeeeeds the nuuuuutrients" (whining tone -- sorry for my vehemence I am just so frustrated by their disrespect of me, with me crying out desperately that I need to fast, and KNOWING this is what I need, and my dignity being damaged every day with my compulsive putting of food in my mouth, and then they come along and scream at me that I am some sort of danger to myself if I say I want to fast; ugh) -- but no,the "needing nutrients" idea is truly a cultural-fear-based exaggeration. The need for nutrients is greatly, greatly exaggerated in our culture. My grogginess is due to a real presence of, oover-growth of, bacteria in the large intestine, and the bacteria create the food cravings, and the craving to get high on food, and they make you feel groggy till you do what they want and binge and thus give them the food they crave-- and then of course you pass out and are in even worse shape than when you were groggy... it is the bacteria that make you want the food when eating is not really OK with you -- it is NOT the "body needing nutrients." Not nearly so much as our culture fears. This is such an insidious idea. I get so frustrated by encountering it...
Jan 04, 2010
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by: Anonymous

dear lulu
hi
i appreciate your post
I think the weight loss is as real as with dieting (the alternative route).I think the major thing fasting does is just change your tastes and behavior.So you don't want to overeat any more
Just like exercise changes you.It (exercise) doesn't really burn that many calories -- not enough to compensate for overeating
Exercise rather changes you and lifts you out of the state in which you are food-addicted.Fasting does this most powerfully
Dieting does it but less powerfully.That's why dieting is so tough -- fasting supposedly is easier in a way.That's my theory anyway
I related to your post in that weight loss maintenance is my primary motivation for fasting also.I am at goal weight and am even below it but I remain food-addicted, in that state
I need to turn to fasting to alkalinize my system and get out of this miserable, always-groggy state, in which I just want to binge all the time.I know fasting heals me this way.
But I have such trouble feeling motivated to fast now that the weight is lost and I look like I want to look.
I think: what's the point? I think: Oh, I can get away with continuing to eat, and not addressing my problem , not really facing my poor health (chonic fatigue).I also get caught up in cultural fears about fasting.My thinness makes people not support my fasting although it is clearly what I need to to for my healing.I am not crazy. I know and my body tells me: fast, fast, fast. it is actually scary how much I need to fast and yet cannot really do it. I was scared to fast for a long time until I read www.soilandhealth.com, which tells about the validity of fasting for everyone, thin or heavy, and how fasting brings healing regardless of weight.

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